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John 08 Questions for Reflection and Discussion

10/9/2022

This painting of Jesus and the woman caught in adultery is held by the Musée des Beaux-Arts de Marseille and was painted by Giovanni Domenico Tiepolo between 1750 and 153. It's a little over four feet wide. Notice how Jesus, stooping down to write on the ground, has taken the attention of the accusers away from the woman. Especially the older accuser is struck by whatever it is that Jesus is writing. The accusers all leave, from the oldest to the youngest. Jesus tells the woman to go and sin no more. Notice the bright coloration of many people's clothes, leaving the woman understated, almost as an afterthought. Also notice the strong diagonal lines from top left through bottom right of the scene. This is slightly jarring to right-handed people. whose natural visual flow will move the opposite direction. The attention all ends up focused on Jesus, who releases the captives.

John 08 Questions for Reflection and Discussion

Notice in the Bible we refer to the following:
  Book - John (there are many different "books" in the one book of the Bible),
  Chapter - Normally found as a big numeric heading. John has 21 chapters,
  Verse - a segment usually about a sentence long.
The chapter and verse markings were added to the text as a handy index about 800 years ago. They are the same in virtually every different translation.

Here's a link to John chapter 8. You can also compare the text in several different languages and translations.

If you want a copy of John's Gospel in print, we're happy to meet you around the Mizzou campus and put one into your hand!

1. The first part of the chapter, with the woman caught in adultery, is one of just a few passages in John's Gospel which is disputed. Some early manuscripts do not include it or place it in different locations. In what ways are Jesus' actions and words consistent with what you have read about in other parts of the Bible?

2. What concern does Jesus have for the woman caught in adultery? What about her accusers? Why is his command to her that she should not enter into sin again an important part of his actions here?

3. Jesus describes himself as the light of the world. This reminds us of chapter one. In what way is the metaphor of light important?

4. Think about Jesus' words about slavery and freedom. In this chapter the move to freedom is a move to a permanent state. Slavery is only ever intended to be temporary. Are you moving to freedom in Christ?

Be sure to ask your questions and share your ideas in the comments for this post!

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Captives May Be Aware or Unaware of Captivity

10/9/2022

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John 7:53-8:11 is normally considered to be an insertion in the text. Carson agrees with that decision. It is omitted in nearly all the early evidence. In many later manuscripts it is marked as questionable. Some manuscripts place it in different locations, including in Luke’s Gospel (Carson 1991, 333). However, Carson thinks it quite likely that the event occurred. There are other similar events recorded in extrabiblical sources (Carson 1991, 334). The idea of Jesus and other teachers in the court of the temple is entirely normal. Officials could easily bring up difficult cases, as they do in 8:3-4. Carson observes the odd situation of only the woman being brought. He also notes the authorities seem mainly to be pursuing Jesus rather than the woman (Carson 1991, 334). The punishment of stoning may well have passed from use i n Jesus’ day. Yet the heart of the question was whether Jesus would uphold Moses (Carson 1991, 335). His doing so, further, could usurp authority of Rome. Carson lists several speculations authors have made about what he wrote on the ground in verse 8. He is ceratin it is a delaying tactic to make the accusers uncomfortable (Carson 1991, 336). This worked. Jesus addressed the woman’s guilt, forgave her, urged her to purity, and sent her away. The passage ends clearly and does not seem tied to any other texts.

Carson begins this segment of his commentary by noting that John 8:12 follows 7:52 perfectly. If the passage from 7:53-8:11 is not original the text remains smooth (Carson 1991, 337). He then goes on to discuss the theme of light in John’s Gospel and Judaism. It was a familiar concept. When Jesus said he was “the light of the world” the people would have understood the concept (Carson 1991, 338).

Carson notes that Jesus’ words in 8:13 should not be understood to prohibit him from asserting his identity. Rather, they say that Jesus is not speaking or acting on his own initiative. He is speaking in accord with his overall testimony, in which his claims are documented by others’ (Carson 1991, 339). Jesus does testify to himself. He also makes judgment, which is fair (Carson 1991, 340).

John 8:21-30 speaks of Jesus’ source of authority. Carson sees Jesus repeating the ideas from 7:33-34, but more forcefully. This does not, however, make the people accept his word (Carson 1991, 341). Jesus, from the heavenly realm, is not understood by his hearers, who, in v. 23, are said to be from the fallen and rebellious world (Carson 1991, 342). In relation to verse 24, Carson speaks at length about the reference to Exodus 3:13-14. Carson concludes that Jesus’ statement of ἐγὼ εἰμί without a direct quote of ὅ ὦν from Exodus makes it difficult to see a direct claim here (Carson 1991, 343). The context, however, made it clear to Jesus’ hearers at some times that he was claiming deity (Carson 1991, 344).

John 8:31-59 introduces some people as believers, but they are later described as slaves to sin (Carson 1991, 246). Carson considers a variety of explanations for this apparent change of attitude. He concludes that some people may have a “fickle faith” which he contrasts with that of the genuine believer (Carson 1991, 348). Carson goes on to identify Jesus’ calls to count the cost of following him as a call to rightly analyze works. Thus the Christian can be sure his commitment to Jesus is true (Carson 1991, 348). Jesus moves the discussion to the concept of slavery next. Carson notes that the Jews no doubt understood Jesus’ reference to a moral servitude to sin. Otherwise they would not have denied being subjects. However, the status of slaves as compared to children is apparently the target of Jesus’ discussion (Carson 1991, 350). Conduct, whether as a slave, a son of Abraham, or the Son of God, shows our true status (Carson 1991, 351). In verses 42 and following, Jesus does not even allow for God to be the Father of the Jews in general. He ties fatherhood very closely to behavior (Carson 1991, 353). Carson notes that in verse 45 unbelief is explained. People who do not believe are children of their father, the Devil. The passage does not explain why some do believe. Carson reiterates the ideas from chapter six of God drawing people to believe (Carson 1991, 354). Jesus does go on to say he is the one who gives life. Verses 51-52 show this as his purpose (Carson 1991, 355). This sparks an objection. Does Jesus think he is greater than Abraham? Jesus claims perfect knowledge of God (Carson 1991, 356). He does claim to be greater than Abraham. He does so in such clear terms in verse 58 that the Jews move to stone him for blasphemy (Carson 1991, 358).

Carson, D. A. The Gospel According to John. Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1991.

Carson, D. A., and Douglas J. Moo. An Introduction to the New Testament. Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2005.

Harris, Murray J. John: Exegetical Guide to the Greek New Testament. Nashville, Tennessee: B&H Academic, 2015.

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